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Spidersbane · Posted: 10/17/2008, 04:23 Post subject: News from the filmakers' office

Some updates on the progress of the movie making; script almost done( Very Happy

), Del Torro insists he alone's in charge of the cameras ( Sad

)
I don't know if any of you frequent councilofelrond.com, but they seem to be more persistent in in-detail updates than the main Hobbit-movie.com site. So look upon these:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/10/08/guillermo-del-toro-to-fly-solo-on-hobbit-directing-duties-says-no-to-peter-jackson-assist/
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1596511/story.jhtml
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Maverik94 · Dwarf Joined: 15 Oct 2008 Posts: 113 Location: USA

In response to the first article: I think that it's wrong for GDT to take this chance away from PJ, He definatley earned it with 11 academy awards just in ROTK.

In response to the second article, I'm glad that things are going well and I hope that they continue to do so. I'm especially excited that the script is almost finished!

You may want to check out this link for an interview with GDT, (It may be old news, but I found it interesting)
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/10/07/hobbit-films-will-be-one-continuous-journey-promises-guillermo-del-toro/
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The Newsflash · Troll Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 14

Hey, not to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't think this movie is going to be good. Off of those articles that i just read I think Mr. Jackson isn't going to as involved in this film as much as we think he is. Del Toro's vision is ABSOLUTELY different from Peter Jackson's. In one of Del Toro's interviews, he said "This is not going to be a Peter Jackson movie...", well... duh, but this definitely proves that there's not going to be any of Jackson's vision involved. You guys are saying that Jackson and his team are writing and there's going to be lots of input from Peter Jackson, well, just because Mr. Jackson is writing it doesn't mean Del Toro can change anything he wants, make anything he wants and diversify anything he wants. He can totally make a film that has NOTHING to do with Jackson's famous 'The Lord of the Rings'. I don't think I care about anything the news or anyone says, this is going to be a totally different film than 'The Lord of the Rings' after things Del Toro has said and after past movies he has made. Not saying Del Toro is a bad director. There is so much evidence that he is going to make this movie the way he wants, 'The Hobbit' will stay completely different from 'The Lord of the Rings' as it has as a book. The only things that make 'The Lord of the Rings' is some of the characters and the 'One Ring', otherwise, the places are totally different, the locations, the people, the characters. No Aragorn, no Arwen, no Gondor, no Rohan, no Mordor and no Lothlorien. This is going to be a tough cookie to swallow, and they might be putting themselves in a SERIOUS pickle. And with 'The Hobbit 2' in the public's mind, this makes it a very slim possibility of success. All of us want to see this movie done right, but with the threat of an absolutely different vision, we can't trust to hope. I believe this is only going to be a success if the combine the stories for 'The Hobbit' and 'The Hobbit 2' and make it one story, then split it into two movies (two parts). That would make this franchise reboot itself. They need to involve things people already have seen in 'The Lord of the Rings'.
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Spidersbane · Posted: 10/18/2008, 22:07 Post subject:

I think you're right, and I am still kind of scared about Del Torro at the head of this film. I just haven't been very trusting of him ever since I heard he was directing. I'm not scornful of him, I just don't know what to expect. I don't know if I'll groan in the theatre or perk up and be the happiest person alive. So if Peter Jackson (THE Hobbit in this world) isn't involved with the vision, I just don't know what to expect. Haven't seen any of this Del Torro's films, nor do I want to, since I just hate those kind of movies. But from the previews and whatnot I've seen, how could this be proof of a good Tolkien movie process? The Hobbit shouldn't at all reflect the tone of those horror movies. But if Peter Jackson was just the director (shame on you New Line Cinema or whoever caused all this) I would be perfectly comfortable. We need to see something that we can be convinced fits with the tone of the trilogy.
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Thorongil · Dwarf Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 132

Why so pessimistic?
O.K. when I first heard that GDT would direct the Hobbit I was not really happy too. But in the course of time I got more and more convinced that he will deliver a real great movie.
Don´t get me wrong the LotR triology was absolutely fine, but if GDT gives the Hobbit a new, different direction I would not mind. The Hobbit and the LotR are two different stories and if GDT remains true to the book, what I think we can expect according to his latest interviews, we should not worry.
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kyle.presley · Goblin Joined: 30 Apr 2008 Posts: 2

I'm just glad PJ is involved at all!!!! Remember when he wasn't on the project? This is much better than nothing! I think Jackson is going to have a heavy hand Guillermo's shoulder...

Spidersbane · Posted: 10/19/2008, 17:56 Post subject:

I don't know who you're calling pessimistic my friend, but I'm not saying this film is doomed. I'm just a little worried since I don't know Del Torro's style that well. But since Jackson's writing the script (almost done as the article says Smile

) I think it will be very Jacksony. I'm sure Peter's approaching it in the same way he approached Lord of the Rings, and I think Del Torro will use him for inspiration. Just because Del Torro's not letting him behind the camera, doesn't mean he can't get inspiration and so on from Jackson. I agree that The Hobbit is a different style than the Lord of the Rings, so I won't be surprised if it's a bit different since there's not such a dynamic focus on the Ring itself.
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The Newsflash · Troll Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 14

I'm not being pessimistic, I'm being realistic.
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Hobbit guy · Wizard Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Denver

I really respect your posts. I think you're honest about how you think. I totally agree with you, I also never really wanted Del Toro to do this in the first place. As I've said before, i think they should split the movies into parts instead of to separate films also. Come on! I wanna hear what you guys have to say about that! I've brought up the subject so many times and it all went unnoticed. I don't agree that del Toro is TOTALLY different from Jackson though, I think they have the same dark vision for their movies, yet Del Toro is a little more colorful than jackson. Jackson is a little more greyer.

Maverik94 · Dwarf Joined: 15 Oct 2008 Posts: 113 Location: USA

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Maverik94 · Dwarf Joined: 15 Oct 2008 Posts: 113 Location: USA

I agree with spidesbane, PJ can still have a lot of influece over the making of the hobbit even though he will not be behind the camera. It is really different than the LOTR anyway.
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Black Unicorn · Troll Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 47

mbuckingham · Dwarf Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 128

First of all, we all knew from the very beginning when they picked Del Toro as director that it would be a Del Toro movie, and adopt his own special style, so nothing has changed at all!

Peter Jackson's part in the movies it just generally to give oversite that the movies will resemble the Middle Earth that he created!

I'm a sworn Del Toro fan, so I'm not going to say how much I trust in Del Toro's judgment, but I do agree Peter Jackson has to be there at least to give guidance... Del Toro has never done a super budget movie before (unless you count Hellboy 2's 80 million budget) and will really need the help of Peter Jackson! But I really doubt Del Toro will be so stupid as to just throw away all Peter Jackson's advice! It's in his interest to make a really successful movie!

Spidersbane: Del Toro's movies aren't all horror, I'd recommend you to watch Pan's Labyrinth as it has a very simular fantasy style as LOTR...

And anyway, we want something original, if we see just a rip-off of Lord of the Rings, don't you think we will all be a little upset?
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Thorongil · Dwarf Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 132

Maverik94 · Dwarf Joined: 15 Oct 2008 Posts: 113 Location: USA

i guess i agree with Thorongil and mbuckingham
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