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Hobbit guy Wizard

Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Denver
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Posted: 08/11/2008, 06:16 Post subject: Scenery |
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In the past movies, Jackson used a brilliant view of the magnificent landscape, New Zealand. In the theaters, or even at home, the scenery, used in 'The Lord of the Rings' looks as if it is too realistic and palpable. My concern is, will Del Toro use these scenes in The Hobbit? Think of the lighting of the beacons in 'The Return of the King', supported with a terrific and exquisite piece of score from the genius musician, Howard Shore, it showed the Might and power of The Mountains in a unthinkably amazing simplicity. They rode a helicopter around and took views and shots of the gigantic and majestic landscape. Will Mr. Del Toro even think of using these? Or will he think of it as a waste of time? Or do ou have your own opinion? |
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mbuckingham Dwarf

Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 128
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Posted: 08/11/2008, 08:59 Post subject: |
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first of all: this will still be a Wingnut film, so will have exactly the same production team, etc. and Howard Shore has already been signed on, so as far as scenery and stuff is concerned, I think Del Toro's going to keep it very similar, so I don't think there's anything to worry about!
(and Peter Jackson's there for the sole purpose to make it look like the same world) _________________ See my new blog here |
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Bart Wizard

Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 393 Location: Belgium
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Posted: 08/11/2008, 12:55 Post subject: |
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No doubt that we will be amazed by the landscape of New Zealand again _________________ I would have followed you, my brother. My captain. My King. |
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Smeagol Dwarf

Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 147
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Posted: 08/11/2008, 15:42 Post subject: Re: Scenery |
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Spidersbane Wizard

Joined: 23 May 2008 Posts: 470 Location: My hobbit-hole
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Posted: 08/11/2008, 23:50 Post subject: |
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Wait till we see shots of the Misty Mountains and Mirkwood, but especially EREBOR! _________________ Maegnas is my name, I am the spiders bane
(words in Elvish written on Sting) |
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Hobbit guy Wizard

Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Denver
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Posted: 08/12/2008, 04:01 Post subject: |
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| Well... I hope Del Toro has Jackson's sight of all the scenery, I'd like to see allot of Erebor and The misty Mountains. |
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Legolas Troll

Joined: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 22
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Posted: 08/14/2008, 01:45 Post subject: |
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| Hobbit guy wrote: | | Well... I hope Del Toro has Jackson's sight of all the scenery, I'd like to see allot of Erebor and The misty Mountains. |
This is a case of just "letting it be". In a way, we're lucky that PJ is even remotely involved.
Remember the movie was about to be given to SAM RAIMI, who I'm sure would've been a drastic switch.
Expect change, yes, but remember that the fact that it may be different from Jackson's LTR, doesn't necessarily mean it will be worse.
In short, try not to worry too much.  |
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Hobbit guy Wizard

Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Denver
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Posted: 08/14/2008, 03:52 Post subject: |
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| O do expect allot of change, trust me, that was not my opinion at all. I'm saying, legolas, or pondering (the reason why i put this post up, and for most other reasons for most other posts). Del Toro is a genius, I'm just thinking of how close to a seamless transition this is really going to be, it could or could not. Now I'm concerned that if he changes TOO much that it will be not good. Things that Jackson made (he even said this) he will not change too much but there are also things and regions that was not touched. I Don't mean to cause controversy. But do you get what I'm saying? |
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Wormtongue Troll

Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 15 Location: Orthanc
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Posted: 08/14/2008, 23:47 Post subject: |
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no i don't get what your saying. _________________ So fair, yet so cold like a pale spring still clinging to winter's chill. |
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Legolas Troll

Joined: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 22
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Posted: 08/22/2008, 00:29 Post subject: |
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| Hobbit guy wrote: | | O do expect allot of change, trust me, that was not my opinion at all. I'm saying, legolas, or pondering (the reason why i put this post up, and for most other reasons for most other posts). Del Toro is a genius, I'm just thinking of how close to a seamless transition this is really going to be, it could or could not. Now I'm concerned that if he changes TOO much that it will be not good. Things that Jackson made (he even said this) he will not change too much but there are also things and regions that was not touched. I Don't mean to cause controversy. |
Neither do I.
Well, we can only I hope. I wish the movies "mesh toghether" as much as you do, and that's partly why I posted the "LOTR Trilogy, revisited" thread, as I think that tweaking the trilogy could help this transition.
I don't know if I said this before, but the "bridge movie" is the key. The Hobbit can look as different as GDT wants, as long as the "bridge movie" is in a middle point between that and PJ's trilogy.
IMO, of course  |
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Hobbit guy Wizard

Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Denver
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Posted: 09/06/2008, 03:57 Post subject: |
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| No I think they all have to look like The Lord of the Rings, I'm hoping the darkness Del toro uses is sustained throughout the whole movies, Jackson's vision was legendary and Del Toro has not to much of the same vision because his movie are dark but they very colorful also and they don't have the greyness color to them. Del Toro uses a lot of the dark colors, don' get me wrong, like in Pan's Labyrinth he uses the dark green for the Labyrinth, the dark blue and slight grey for the real world but unfortunately he uses bright colors for the fantasy world sooo?? does he notice the colors in The Lord of the Rings?? |
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painjoiker Wizard

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Posted: 05/13/2009, 22:30 Post subject: |
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The sets for the Shire and the miniature of Rivendell will be the same at least... so bag end will be the same house, and so on!!!
Thats good news to me at least |
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pentirr Dwarf

Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 107
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Posted: 06/05/2009, 22:16 Post subject: |
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I don't know if I said this before, but the "bridge movie" is the key. The Hobbit can look as different as GDT wants, as long as the "bridge movie" is in a middle point between that and PJ's trilogy. |
they've since said the bridge movie leak is now incorrect: It is the hobbbit, split over two films, with additional material: Which he's recently said includes the creation of the realm of erebor under king thrain and the ascent of dol guldur. |
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pentirr Dwarf

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Posted: 06/05/2009, 22:17 Post subject: |
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Hobbiton should be the same... thats key, in the first few minutes, to convincing people it's the same world. And rivendell should be essentially the same, although I suppose they could make it a bit more in its prime. Filming in NZ should help the wildlands etc. look right... it's the locations like mirkwood I can imagine GDT's directorial style influencing the design of... but these will be new locations and he will have to allow the style of the previous locations blend in with them so the departure can't be too big.
The 'believability' of the LOTR films was amazing compared to a lot of fantasy... Yes I know it's about hobbits and whatnot, but the buildings & cultures felt like they had a genuine heritage, and weren't just OTT fantastic designs. I really hope this carries on into the hobbit. |
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painjoiker Wizard

Joined: 13 Apr 2009 Posts: 358
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Posted: 06/06/2009, 01:05 Post subject: |
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| pentirr wrote: | | The 'believability' of the LOTR films was amazing compared to a lot of fantasy... Yes I know it's about hobbits and whatnot, but the buildings & cultures felt like they had a genuine heritage, and weren't just OTT fantastic designs. I really hope this carries on into the hobbit. |
I do so too... If you watch the behind the scenes of LotR you'll see how much work they did for filming a 30 seconds scene...
They created a culture for like 5-6 months an such...
I hope they will continue this hard work in the hobbit, because it's worth it^^
I just hope del Toro don't do this just to make money on PJ's work...
But since PJ is a part of it, it's most likely not so |
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